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and that's where john boehner is refusing to start out in the negotiations. also, the person who is missing from the sound bites we just say, the video we saw was mitch mcconnell, the republican leader of the senate. he's up in 2014. he's got rand paul, a tea party guy, as his other republican senator in the state. mcconnell's worried about a challenge from the right to the point where he hired rand paul's campaign manager who was ron paul's campaign manager to be his mcconnell campaign manager coming up. so mitch mcconnell is the missing piece of the puzzle here. he's the person the president has had the least success in dealing with. they have no personal relationship whatwhatsoever, th president and john boehner played golf once or twice. boehner as a person is of a more amenable guy. the white house wants a deal, and the reason they want a deal is because of the economy. if we get tangled up here in d.c. and go over the cliff or down the gradual slope, it's not -- it's not going to be good for the economy. there are people waiting to invest. there's a wor
and that's where john boehner is refusing to start out in the negotiations. also, the person who is missing from the sound bites we just say, the video we saw was mitch mcconnell, the republican leader of the senate. he's up in 2014. he's got rand paul, a tea party guy, as his other republican senator in the state. mcconnell's worried about a challenge from the right to the point where he hired rand paul's campaign manager who was ron paul's campaign manager to be his mcconnell campaign manager...
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john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for the tom harkin seat. is harkin retiring? we don't know for sure. that's been the long assumption. big opportunity for republicans midterm. iowa on top of the ticket. >> abs lieuly. >> already we know that there's going to be a real republican primary. mitch mcconnell and john corbin basically went about this in a placate the base, contindon't, know, disrupt this. and it failed. now, they're not getting blame and i'm surprised. >> here's the deal. in 2010 they did get involved in a lot of places. >> they tried. >> they tried. most
john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for...
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the most interesting thing, though, from the boehner aide was that john boehner believes there is not enough time from now until the end of the year to actually have a grand bargain. there's enough time, though, to put together the framework for what a grand bargain would look like. essentially have the top lines agreed to that by sometime in 2013 you could have both the chambers, the senate and the house, come together on some substantial tax reform, entitlement reform, and get rid of the sort of automatic cuts that we see as a sequester, and the tax increases and have a mechanism you can replace them with. listen to the congressional leaders in their photo op in the white house before thanksgiving that they had today. >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. >> we have a cornerstones of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we should have a goal in terms of how much deficit reduction. we should have a deadline before christmas. >> we fully understand
the most interesting thing, though, from the boehner aide was that john boehner believes there is not enough time from now until the end of the year to actually have a grand bargain. there's enough time, though, to put together the framework for what a grand bargain would look like. essentially have the top lines agreed to that by sometime in 2013 you could have both the chambers, the senate and the house, come together on some substantial tax reform, entitlement reform, and get rid of the sort...
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do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz will join us. >>> congresswoman gabby giffords will come face to face with the shooter who nearly took her life and the lives of 11 others. >>> why are we waiting on florida once again? we're going to talk to debbie wasserman schultz about her home state. president obama reelected. what should be the first thing on his agenda? . ♪ 99 bushels of wheat on the farm...99 bushels of wheat! ♪ [ male announcer ] yep, there's 8 layers of whole grain fiber in those mini-wheats® biscuits... to help keep you full... ♪ 45 bushels of wheat on the farm. 45 bushels of wheat! ♪ ...all morning l
do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz...
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what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we know that failed because what happened after we tried that last time was jobs went down and the deficit went up. so i think the speaker shoumd do what he says that he wants to do. put this out in public. the president has put his plan in public. it was a central part of the debate. saying that folks at the higher end should pay more to reduce our deficit because if we don't ask them to chip in more, it means everybody else gets hit harder. >> you heard what he said. we're not going to raise taxes on small business. and for republicans,
what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we...
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as bill clinton might say, it's just arithmetic. >> john boehner is making his bid for speaker of the house official in eye letter sent to his colleagues he says his priorities are taking on the president and democrats in the senate. he calls house republicans the last line of defense. mitch mcconnell is already thinking about 2014. the day after the election he held a fund-raiser for 1,000 bucks a person you could attend the reception. and here's a great perk about being first lady. michelle obama didn't want to wait until january to watch the third season of "downton abbey" so it sent dvds to the white house. the three of us are -- with hands on hips, where's ours? where's ours? >> if you read only one thing this morning, today's must read is courtesy of the national constitution center, which argues in a fascinating article why the petraeus affair has nothing on the nation's first sex scandal, hint, it included a duel and it's up on our facebook page alt facebook/jansingco. borm the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker
as bill clinton might say, it's just arithmetic. >> john boehner is making his bid for speaker of the house official in eye letter sent to his colleagues he says his priorities are taking on the president and democrats in the senate. he calls house republicans the last line of defense. mitch mcconnell is already thinking about 2014. the day after the election he held a fund-raiser for 1,000 bucks a person you could attend the reception. and here's a great perk about being first lady....
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john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are born here, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done. whatever little penalties you want to put in there. then it's done. >> pathway to citizenship, done. where was all this talk before the election? you see this is all about getting votes. it's not coming from the heart. reforming immigration policy is a huge risk for the republicans. they could alienate their base. there's no guarantee they will win the latino vote in the long run. let's turn to ruy teixeira. great to have you with us. >> delighted to be here. >> you predicted thi
john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are...
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i think john boehner and a few others in the republican party have got to tell eric cantor and paul ryan and michele bachmann and a lot of the tea partiers in that party, if you continue to insist that taxes are not going to be increased on the rich, we are not going to ever gain or regain control of the senate. we're going to lose control of the house in 2014, 2016. we're going to become a permanent minority party because it makes no sense to most americans. >> hit them where it hurts. professor robert reich, thank you. >>> next, how far will the president go in the showdown against john mccain. >>> but first, hampton pearson has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. we saw stocks move lower again on more wall street fears of going over the fiscal cliff. the dow losing 28 points, the s&p down 2, the nasdaq closing down 9 points. that's it from cbs, first in business worldwide. [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, wh
i think john boehner and a few others in the republican party have got to tell eric cantor and paul ryan and michele bachmann and a lot of the tea partiers in that party, if you continue to insist that taxes are not going to be increased on the rich, we are not going to ever gain or regain control of the senate. we're going to lose control of the house in 2014, 2016. we're going to become a permanent minority party because it makes no sense to most americans. >> hit them where it hurts....
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surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into the negotiations and to lead, and continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. it is on his shoulders. >> he has to lead publicly as well. >> yes. >> to sell it? >> he has to sell it. you know, there are a couple -- there aren't a lot of republicans i think that play in regards to public pres
surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i...
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house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world. >> national journal reports wisconsin congressman and former vp hopeful paul ryan will remain house budget committee chairman after being granted a gop waiver to avoid being term limited out of that spot. >>> senate majority leader harry reid lashed out at massachusetts senator scott brown mocking brown's calls for bipartisanship as a joke, describing brown as one of the most partisan senators ever to serve. >>> we now know which political office may be sought by another member of the bush family, george p. bush. his father, former florida governor jeb bush, confirms in a letter to potential donors that
house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world....
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>> speaker john boehner on friday, appeared to give a little ground, suggesting that limits on tax deductions could be part of a deal, something that senior obama adviser, david axelrod, said was a step in the right direction. >> i think the speaker's comments have been encouraging. and obviously, there's money to be gained by closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. so, i think there's a lot of ways to skin this cat, so long as everybody comes with a positive, constructive attitude toward the task. >> axelrod also pointed out that exit polling from the election showed 60% of the american agreed with raising taxes on the highest earners. >>> there's a renewed focus on immigration policy, following a presidential election that saw a growing divide between republicans and the hispanic community. now, two senators on opposite sides of the aisle says they're confident they can push through reform. chuck schumer and lindsey graham are revisiting a plan they proposed together back in 2010. >> i think we have a darn good chance, using this blueprint, to get something d
>> speaker john boehner on friday, appeared to give a little ground, suggesting that limits on tax deductions could be part of a deal, something that senior obama adviser, david axelrod, said was a step in the right direction. >> i think the speaker's comments have been encouraging. and obviously, there's money to be gained by closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. so, i think there's a lot of ways to skin this cat, so long as everybody comes with a...
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. >> reporter: but house speaker john boehner rejects any hike in tax rates. he would raise revenues by closing loopholes in the tax code. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> reporter: failure to agree by the end of the year would trigger deep spending cuts and tax cuts. that could mean $2,000 more in taxes for the typical household. the jobless rate soaring to 9.1% by the end of the year. and possibly, another recession. boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so-called grand bargain, 4 trillion in debt reduction. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is, uncriminaled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy, if the standoff drags on. >> three or four weeks from now, they're making no progress at all, you're going to see the anxiety and the nervousness growing in the markets and the corporate board rooms. >>> two weeks after the destr
. >> reporter: but house speaker john boehner rejects any hike in tax rates. he would raise revenues by closing loopholes in the tax code. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> reporter: failure to agree by the end of the year would trigger deep spending cuts and tax cuts. that could mean $2,000 more in taxes for the typical household. the jobless rate soaring to 9.1% by the end of the year. and possibly, another...
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how did the dynamics change for john boehner? do you agree that he is more empowered two years later to go back to his caucus and strike a deal? >> reporter: i assume he is, but i don't know if he can do it. and that's a great -- you know, i think the next three months are going to be fascinating to watch. does boehner have the guts to go and bring a compromise deal to the house floor that won't get a majority of his republican conference? can he -- does he have the guts to do that if the senate comes up with a compromise that gets 65 votes, gets 10 republicans on board, does he have the guts to do something like that? i don't know. i mean, you know, another part of this republican hand wringing that i'm surprised we're not hearing about is, you know, a lot of the reasons why, for instance, republicans lost senate seats, didn't gain them, but lost them. forget what happened two years ago in 2010 when they didn't win as many as they could have. they lost senate seats, which is still the biggest surprise, i think, of this election.
how did the dynamics change for john boehner? do you agree that he is more empowered two years later to go back to his caucus and strike a deal? >> reporter: i assume he is, but i don't know if he can do it. and that's a great -- you know, i think the next three months are going to be fascinating to watch. does boehner have the guts to go and bring a compromise deal to the house floor that won't get a majority of his republican conference? can he -- does he have the guts to do that if the...
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i think john boehner and barack obama said this has to be a balanced approach. balance is in the eye of beholder in terms of how much of each part of it goes into the final deal. >> susan. >> you know, there's one way that president obama could deal with these questions about specificity, and that's to take some questions from reporters and answer them. this is really unusual for a president just re-elected to come out and talk to the reporters by reading a statement, being surrounded by supporters behind him, and not take questions from the press. you remember there were famous press conferences by president george w. bush when he was re-elected and bill clinton and ronald reagan when he was re-elected. the president can deal with the market's concerns about whether he needs to reach a deal by doing that. >> let me reiterate what we were talking about earlier this hour, you all in particular have been discussing and looking at cabinet decisions. we have reported that there has been conversation about the future of david petraeus. that he was, according to all r
i think john boehner and barack obama said this has to be a balanced approach. balance is in the eye of beholder in terms of how much of each part of it goes into the final deal. >> susan. >> you know, there's one way that president obama could deal with these questions about specificity, and that's to take some questions from reporters and answer them. this is really unusual for a president just re-elected to come out and talk to the reporters by reading a statement, being...
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rather, can john boehner, i like the term herd cats in a wheel barrow in this one? >> if he's determined to do so, i think he can. the key here is mitch mcconnell in the senate. he's up for re-election in 2014. he is the key. both for president obama and for the house majority leader boehner. mitch mcconnell at least in public he tendses to look at president obama like a hitchhiker with pets or something. he doesn't want anything to do with him. if he continues to hold it, his first statement election night after president obama won, to say the least not very generous. >> not quite bipartisan. >> if mcconnell holds to that line, then big trouble for the obama agenda and for what boehner and others hoped to accomplish and big trouble for the country. some things you feel congress is so out of touch, i don't know how they could be after this election but, you know, there's out of date as these belt and slacks men used to wear. >> the metaphors are beautiful. >> belts and slacks. >> i love it. >> but i actually think there is a lot of truth there, which is they have th
rather, can john boehner, i like the term herd cats in a wheel barrow in this one? >> if he's determined to do so, i think he can. the key here is mitch mcconnell in the senate. he's up for re-election in 2014. he is the key. both for president obama and for the house majority leader boehner. mitch mcconnell at least in public he tendses to look at president obama like a hitchhiker with pets or something. he doesn't want anything to do with him. if he continues to hold it, his first...
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just ask john boehner. >> it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected. obama care is the law of the land. >> it's happening it, and there's nothing they can do about it. right now, states are deciding how to implement a key part of the law. states can either set up exchanges for people to buy insurance or let the federal government do it for them. you think that choice would be easy for republican governors, given how much they hate the federal government. >> we don't like when the federal government comes and shoves things down our throat. >> sadly, the hardest part of my job continues to be this federal government. >> i mean all the states are actually under assault by this federal government. they are under assault by this federal government. >> so dwhae these governors decide? rick perry and his buddies are letting the feds set up their exchanges. they don't want the federal government to have any control over health care. so now they're letting the federal government have more control over health care. these republican politicians have tied themselv
just ask john boehner. >> it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected. obama care is the law of the land. >> it's happening it, and there's nothing they can do about it. right now, states are deciding how to implement a key part of the law. states can either set up exchanges for people to buy insurance or let the federal government do it for them. you think that choice would be easy for republican governors, given how much they hate the federal government. >> we don't...
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house republicans re-elected john boehner as speaker so he's sure to be a major player in negotiations again. time to "backspin." we have all the same people in power. i want to start by saying, look, i do not have the appetite for the fighting that we saw over the past four years. >> good. >> thought it was childish. i do not think compromise, the "c" world is a dirty one. the idea there's a mandate is a little flawed, for a number of reasons. the mandate for obama to go forward was certainly rubber stamped by his voters, but clearly romney's voters would say there's a man daylight for t -- mandate for the republican voters as well. they voted for that message. and when people voted for obama and people voted for romney, they were both saying these are the messages we want you to put forward. if obama moves to the right, who's he representing? not the folks who voted for him. if romney moves to the left, who's he representing? not the folks that voted for him. coming to the middle seems arbitrary like you're representing no one. i think the real thing to say is that both parties need
house republicans re-elected john boehner as speaker so he's sure to be a major player in negotiations again. time to "backspin." we have all the same people in power. i want to start by saying, look, i do not have the appetite for the fighting that we saw over the past four years. >> good. >> thought it was childish. i do not think compromise, the "c" world is a dirty one. the idea there's a mandate is a little flawed, for a number of reasons. the mandate for...
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can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has -- he's
can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate...
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same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen, you are absolutely right, and you have your chance to speak. but you're not going to drive the party's identity. you're not going to drive the message. and i as the leader of the party in the house now can be able to go to the white house and make a deal. there is going to be a deal struck. you're absolutely right. and this will be a story for a while. then they come together and get it out of here. we'll start talking about something else because we as republicans need to talk about something else. the fiscal cliff is not making the republicans any more popular. and ri
same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen,...
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john boehner initially said, listen, president, it's time fur to lead. that's what you saw in that press conference, the president saying look at the map, look at my victory and get what and, oh, yeah, guess what, i've won. >> we've officially renamed the fiscal cliff the fiscal curb. it's a little step down and you keep taking the steps so by the time you goat march or april, there's something significant happening but not right away. but there's a tricky thing here. both sides want to call it a cliff because both sides need drama in order to drive the urgency of their position but i'm wondering if at some point the president doesn't soften this as we get into late december and start to say to people, well, on the first week of january, you're going u just going to see a little step. and we will have time to fix it retroactively. >> i think that's probably what you will hear. i think ultimately this is going to be some kind of compromise. the fiscal cliff, it would be about $6 hup billion worth of tax cuts. i think it is going to be softened. there are
john boehner initially said, listen, president, it's time fur to lead. that's what you saw in that press conference, the president saying look at the map, look at my victory and get what and, oh, yeah, guess what, i've won. >> we've officially renamed the fiscal cliff the fiscal curb. it's a little step down and you keep taking the steps so by the time you goat march or april, there's something significant happening but not right away. but there's a tricky thing here. both sides want to...
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i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday expires. and $984 billion in cuts will be triggered. joining me now, andy sullivan and sher a tupletts. what do you expect to come out of the meeting friday and will any real progress made? >> oh, no, but i think the optics will be important. there will beside by side getting their picture taken and i think this will reassure voters and most importantly investors that they are serious about the problem and they want t to get something done before the end of the year. they've pretty much gotten a free ride from the markets. everybody knew this was co
i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday...
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national l
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before. >> karen finney and jonathan capehart, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, breaking news tonight in the investigation of david petraeus, the fbi conducted a search of the home of paula broadwell. we'll have all the breaking news, developments in that case, coming up. now,ere's one that will ke you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybri
look, while they won't say publicly, they all said the political reality is that john boehner is not in the same position to negotiate with the president that he was before. he lost seats. the president won a second term, and the central argument in this campaign was exactly this issue. so they are sort of negotiating with themselves a bit in the public eye. when it comes to sitting down across the table with the president, they will have to get down to brass tacks in a way they didn't before....
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julian, this is what house speaker john boehner told politico the day before the election about whether president obama has a mandate on this issue. listen, our majority is going to get re-elected, we'll have as much of a mandate as he will to not raise taxes. what do you say to mr. boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that there's now a wedge in the republican party that the president needs to exploit. there's a wedge between the realist wing and the kind of fa fantasy, childish wing. the realist wing understands the president has a mandate. democrats won the presidency and the senate. we won a majority -- we won the popular vote if you add up the house races as well. look, i think it's in both parties' interest to avoid the fiscal cliff. neither of them want it for a whole host of reasons, including it will be damaging to the economy. we learned recently that president obama in august of 2011 was kind of ready to do a nixon g
julian, this is what house speaker john boehner told politico the day before the election about whether president obama has a mandate on this issue. listen, our majority is going to get re-elected, we'll have as much of a mandate as he will to not raise taxes. what do you say to mr. boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that...
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that's the struggle that john boehner's having right now. but it will further define the republican party. and if they can't come to grips with a balanced deal, where you're asking the wealthiest in the country, who have made so much money over the last decade, then that really shows what kind of party they are. and this is about the values that we hold as americans, ed. this is not about numbers. this is about values. >> well, you know, when you look at the way this is setting up, this has got a lot of 2014 talk to it already. i mean, these republicans are going to have to go home and explain, well, i couldn't go along with the tax cuts for the 98% of americans. that would put them against the middle class, wouldn't it? >> yeah. i mean, imagine on friday, when they're all sitting around the table, and the president says, hey, fellas, you know, you're going to be responsible for raising taxes on middle class americans. and if you fail to agree to this top 1% or top 2% tax increase that we're asking for, you go out. the microphones are in the
that's the struggle that john boehner's having right now. but it will further define the republican party. and if they can't come to grips with a balanced deal, where you're asking the wealthiest in the country, who have made so much money over the last decade, then that really shows what kind of party they are. and this is about the values that we hold as americans, ed. this is not about numbers. this is about values. >> well, you know, when you look at the way this is setting up, this...
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dana, on the planet republican, john boehner was just re-elected to the speakership. he seems to think with his re-election comes the bigger mandate. is he serious? does he even have a mandate among hits own house republicans? >> i'm sure the voters of john boehner's district near cincinnati, ohio, do -- have given him a mandate to do exactly what he's doing. but he needs to represented the entire country when he's speaker of the house. >> oh, yes. cue remind him of that? >> there has to be a little bit of a game going on after the election. as both sides lay out their positions here. the president, i think, was doing some justifiable chest-thumping today saying, look, guys, i won this election last week. he's not budging on his position. it appears, as a matter of policy, the republicans are at least showing some indication to move, even while attempting to rhetorically deny the president this mandate. >> that's a contortion. paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would hav
dana, on the planet republican, john boehner was just re-elected to the speakership. he seems to think with his re-election comes the bigger mandate. is he serious? does he even have a mandate among hits own house republicans? >> i'm sure the voters of john boehner's district near cincinnati, ohio, do -- have given him a mandate to do exactly what he's doing. but he needs to represented the entire country when he's speaker of the house. >> oh, yes. cue remind him of that? >>...
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how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who were here without papers through no fault of their own. when president obama announced that, beltway reporters immediately went to the republican leaders in congress to see what's the official response tr that? what's the official position on that issue. here's what the reporters were told by the republicans in congress. "senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said that gop lawmakers will wait for mitt romney to take the lead on immigration policy. most members are interested in what romney has to say about this issue
how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who...
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look, i think the white house was pleasantly surprised and open to what john boehner said. i mean, obviously, they appreciated what they thought was a very thoughtful and well thought out position that speaker boehner made publicly about where he sees the negotiations, where he's publicly putting out there where he's willing to move for now. obviously, everything's in negotiation, everything's a little bit of posturing. but it certainly was a much different tone, for instance, than what came out of mitch mcconnell's office office the election, and we've plowed through that plenty. i think what you're going to see now is the white house wants to attack a little bit of time, be thoughtful how public -- what they say publicly versus how much maneuverer ability is there. the other unnamed player is chuck shumer. chuck schumer publicly said i like simpson bowls in the it made an effort but i don't like what they're trying to do with taxes. we can't do this with tax reform. taxes should go up. he wants to move the negotiating position on the democrats in a little bit of a differe
look, i think the white house was pleasantly surprised and open to what john boehner said. i mean, obviously, they appreciated what they thought was a very thoughtful and well thought out position that speaker boehner made publicly about where he sees the negotiations, where he's publicly putting out there where he's willing to move for now. obviously, everything's in negotiation, everything's a little bit of posturing. but it certainly was a much different tone, for instance, than what came...
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. >> is that the big onus on john boehner? >> i think it is the onus on all of the negotiators. it's all of them at this point. because that's where the spotlight is. yeah. it's going to be quite a task. we saw that when this happened the last time. it's going to come right up to the line. i think we might be here late december. >> the drama will take us through the end of the year. our power panel, jackie kucinich, blake, robert, thanks to all three of you. >>> up next i'll talk with someone who was in this morning's closed door hearing with general petraeus, republican congressman tom rooney will join the show. what do you think about today's testimony? tweet me your comments at thomas a. roberts. we're back after this. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let
. >> is that the big onus on john boehner? >> i think it is the onus on all of the negotiators. it's all of them at this point. because that's where the spotlight is. yeah. it's going to be quite a task. we saw that when this happened the last time. it's going to come right up to the line. i think we might be here late december. >> the drama will take us through the end of the year. our power panel, jackie kucinich, blake, robert, thanks to all three of you. >>> up...
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could john boehner face another revolt? >>> first, we go back to florida, ground zero for head counts and election nights with no winners, again? this is msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> from his ranch in crawford, texas, governor bush voiced his objections to a third recount of ballots in florida. >> we've had one count and then we had another count. and fortunately, we won both counts. >> by going to court, bush is hoping to insure his lead in florida unofficially a 327-vote marnellen doesn't change in tallahassee today, former secretary of state, james baker, repeated his argument that hand-counting is subjective and unreliable a
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. >> i would even say keep these conversations loud and public and also show john boehner, if john boehner is going to be blaming everybody else but john boehner for being owe not being able to poll this red ants that infested his regions what can't get done, let's just see what that's about. because this is a democracy. this isn't the president's mandate. it's everybody's mandate. >> i want to set two things next to each other. on the one hand, we had a letter in the washington post to the president and to the congress from sort of the group that had supported the president, big labor and others and they made it very clear. the 2012 elections are over. the american people have spoken. we've voted for the middle class, putting people back to work and not job killing budget cuts and not attacking social security and medicare and medicate. this is what they're saying. on the other hand, we have boehner who won a majority in the house of representatives. here's what he said thursday to diane sawyer about raising taxes. >> is it on the table to talk about it? >> i made clear -- >> the wealthie
. >> i would even say keep these conversations loud and public and also show john boehner, if john boehner is going to be blaming everybody else but john boehner for being owe not being able to poll this red ants that infested his regions what can't get done, let's just see what that's about. because this is a democracy. this isn't the president's mandate. it's everybody's mandate. >> i want to set two things next to each other. on the one hand, we had a letter in the washington...
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that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a dilemma set up for them by john mccain, as i was just discussing with bill burton. john mccain is suggesting that the
that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's...
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house speaker john boehner has less support each day for a hard line approach. republican opposition to tax increases is slipping in congress. anti-tax lobbyist grover norquist no longer as a majority of supporters in either chamber. "the hill" says newly elected republicans refuse to sign the anti-tax pledge during the campaigns and another handful of returning republicans have disavowed their alliance to the written commitment. it's about time. at least they paid attention to the election. today bobby jindal scolded the entire party for the approach to the economy. hold it right there. this comment, he sewer sounds like a democrat. we've got to make sure that weren't the party of big business, big banks, big wall street bailouts, big corporate loophole, big anything. we cannot be, we must not be the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys. bobby, come on over to the good side, dude. you're talking like a conservative democrat. momentum is on the president's side. he just needs to know how motivated his allies are. the hard work didn'
house speaker john boehner has less support each day for a hard line approach. republican opposition to tax increases is slipping in congress. anti-tax lobbyist grover norquist no longer as a majority of supporters in either chamber. "the hill" says newly elected republicans refuse to sign the anti-tax pledge during the campaigns and another handful of returning republicans have disavowed their alliance to the written commitment. it's about time. at least they paid attention to the...
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what the white house is saying and this matters for these negotiations, john boehner's position is he is open to revenue, but not if it includes increasing the top tax rate. he is only doing it through some mystery process of tax reform where you have a large amount of revenue, but still at 35% of the top tax rate or if boehner has his druthers, have a lower tax rate, maybe 28% as in simpson-bowles. the white house doesn't think the math will work out. they believe even when it can, you have to do such radical things like eliminating charitable deduction at the top brackets entirely, it wouldn't be worth doing if you could. their view, it is not a compromise to say in a future tax reform process you're going to get that money, they're not going to sign anything that doesn't include the top tax rate going up at the end of december. >> justin, you were in the room with the president today. can you confirm that quote that the huffington post has, i am not going to budge, i said in 2010 i'm going to do this once and i meant it? >> i actually don't remember if those are his exact words, an
what the white house is saying and this matters for these negotiations, john boehner's position is he is open to revenue, but not if it includes increasing the top tax rate. he is only doing it through some mystery process of tax reform where you have a large amount of revenue, but still at 35% of the top tax rate or if boehner has his druthers, have a lower tax rate, maybe 28% as in simpson-bowles. the white house doesn't think the math will work out. they believe even when it can, you have to...
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. >> john boehner is listening to the future, he's listening to his party -- >> reporter: they want a deal. >> they want a deal. do you think the republicans are listening to the brains out like this like kristol and other thinkers, do you think they're willing to say we've been to prejudice to the rich. this is one of the areas they will say you won the battle. we won't keep fighting for the rich. >> reporter: here's what i can tell you. when you talk to leadership and do reporting on that, they want a deal. they're ready for a deal. and they're not that far off. the problem is, can you find a minimum -- let's just say a minimum of 35 house republicans who can commit themselves to voting for a raise of tax rates. it would be and could be primary suicide for those 35 republicans. because we know these gerrymander districts. this is not about swing districts anymore. that's the problem boehner had. if boehner had 35 safe republicans, safe from a primary challenge, safe from somebody from the right on taxes, i think this deal would have happened even a lot sooner. they might have gone a
. >> john boehner is listening to the future, he's listening to his party -- >> reporter: they want a deal. >> they want a deal. do you think the republicans are listening to the brains out like this like kristol and other thinkers, do you think they're willing to say we've been to prejudice to the rich. this is one of the areas they will say you won the battle. we won't keep fighting for the rich. >> reporter: here's what i can tell you. when you talk to leadership and...
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can john boehner control the tea party? can mitch mcconnell protect his right flank? thank you very much. >> by the way, he's got to, i guess. he's got an election coming up himself. >> and he had a tough re-election. remember, he had to run six years ago right after the auto bailouts, had a tougher election than he wanted. >>> still ahead, new jersey governor chris christie joins the set. also actor bradley cooper will be here. next, senator saxby chambliss and andrea mitchell. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 then tonight, i'm trading 9500 miles away in japan. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with the new global account from schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 i hunt down opport
can john boehner control the tea party? can mitch mcconnell protect his right flank? thank you very much. >> by the way, he's got to, i guess. he's got an election coming up himself. >> and he had a tough re-election. remember, he had to run six years ago right after the auto bailouts, had a tougher election than he wanted. >>> still ahead, new jersey governor chris christie joins the set. also actor bradley cooper will be here. next, senator saxby chambliss and andrea...
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we heard words from john boehner. we'll see if it's followed by action. we're talking about we're ready to sit down and make a deal. we'll follow your lead, mr. president. we want to bring in mike allen down in "politico's" newsroom. good morning. >> good morning, guys. >> there have been a lot of grand claims and proclamations over the past 36 hours. the republican party's dead. they can't recover. they've lost latinos forever. texas is a swing state now. put it in a little perspective for us. how bad are things at this moment? >> well, republicans recognize that things are really bad, as we've heard from the conversation here. they think that it's in freefall, and there's so many different parts that all have problems. you've talked about the demographic problems, this problem with the donors who gave a billion dollars, the outside group structure is clearly broken. >> that didn't work well. >> no, and i'll tell that you donors are angry about it. and somebody told me yesterday, donors -- and joe, you'll appreciate this -- donors are scorekeepers. and f
we heard words from john boehner. we'll see if it's followed by action. we're talking about we're ready to sit down and make a deal. we'll follow your lead, mr. president. we want to bring in mike allen down in "politico's" newsroom. good morning. >> good morning, guys. >> there have been a lot of grand claims and proclamations over the past 36 hours. the republican party's dead. they can't recover. they've lost latinos forever. texas is a swing state now. put it in a...
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when john boehner says, i'm open to raising revenues, he had on the table a proposal to raise taxes. that's what it means when you're raising revenues. they can spin it any way they want, it's raising taxes by $800 billion. so the republican party, in a growing number of folks in the republican party, are on record for raising taxes. and they know the number's going to have to be above 800. that's the floor from last year. i think the actual number will be 1.2 which will be the middle ground between 800 and $1.6 trillion. you don't get to $1.2 trillion without either raising tax rates or changing how we tax investment, which is the reason that a lot of rich people end up paying a very low tax rate. people like mitt romney can pay an effective tax rate of 10% to 15% because so much of their income comes from long-term investment holdings. something has to give. you have to change those things if you want to raise that type of revenue. >> we've talked a lot about the tax side of this, but there's spending cuts that need to be dealt with. no one wants the automatic sequester cuts for na
when john boehner says, i'm open to raising revenues, he had on the table a proposal to raise taxes. that's what it means when you're raising revenues. they can spin it any way they want, it's raising taxes by $800 billion. so the republican party, in a growing number of folks in the republican party, are on record for raising taxes. and they know the number's going to have to be above 800. that's the floor from last year. i think the actual number will be 1.2 which will be the middle ground...